CEO Blues

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Isaac Grant -

Preach On!

Rob L. -

I'm assuming you've got a specific client in mind here. Everybody's got one.

Charlie -

"Not making payroll is better than years of turmoil."

Unless not making payroll means somebody's not going to eat tonight. In that case bring on the turmoil and pass the mac and cheese.

CF

Isaac Grant -

As one of a few who survived for two years not making payroll because of our collective belief in not taking on projects like Dan mentions, it was more than worth it for many reasons.

Carl -

"Not making payroll is better than years of turmoil."

Must be nice to be in situation where you can not make payroll and still retain your employees.

Missing payroll, no matter how you justify it to your employees, isn't exactly a morale booster. If my employer missed payroll just once, i'd be updating my resume right away and hitting up the job search sites.

silverorange has a very different background from most companies, being founded and primarily staffed by very young employees who could get by missing payroll here and there... when you have a company with employees who have spouses, children to provide for, mortgages and car payments... missing payroll isn't an option.

Dan James -

Carl,
You are right. We have a much different background than most companies. But it is just that, a background. Almost all of us now have spouses/significant others, car payments, mortgages, and we've got our first silverorange founder's baby on the way! Even today with all of this I know most, if not all, of us here would take a hit personally so that we could do what is right, not what is desperate.

There is another big difference between silverorange and other companies. The people who work here built this company to what it is. Each person has contributed to the where we've gotten. To leave would be to leave something they created behind. They also would be leaving a team that encourages them, trusts them, and respects them.

From what you've said it sounds quite a bit different for you and your situation.

Carl -

Yes, my situation and employer is certainly different from silverorange... but it it is the norm. silverorange is the exception.

Your views on the situation are admirable, but for many it is unrealistic.

Robert Paterson -

Carl

I think that the deeper point about being realistic or not is about the core culture of the organization.

SO is founded on quite different principles to a regular organization. I feel that what we understand as being "realistic and normal" is deeply flawed and is based on mechanical relationships. Mechanical in that non one really cares about the work, the client or each other.

SO is more like a tribe. It is a social unit that also goes hunting. Like a tribe, it is hard to get into and hard to leave. Like a real tribe it finds a way when times are tough and shares and celibrates in the times of plenty.

We all lived like this for millenia. It is the natural way to organize. As more of us reject the machine, my hope is that we will find ourselves returning to this way of working and living.

It is what we see as our normal way of working that is actually unrealistic as it fails all our needs but a paycheck and we only get that by becoming a slave.

Rob

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